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Live from Music Row Thursday morning on The Tennessee Star Report with Michael Patrick Leahy – broadcast on Nashville’s Talk Radio 98.3 and 1510 WLAC weekdays from 5:00 a.m. to 8:00 a.m. – guest host Aaron Gulbransen welcomed Senator Marsha Blackburn to the newsmaker line to discuss her recent op-ed that addresses issues surrounding rules, regulations, privacy and reforms for Section 230.

Gulbransen: We have a very special guest on our newsmaker line joining us right now – U.S. Senator Marsha Blackburn. How are you, ma’am?

Blackburn: Good morning. How are you? And I’m delighted to join you!

Simon: Hi Marsha, it’s Roger. How are you?

Blackburn: I am doing well, Roger. Always so good to hear from you. And keep up the great job writing.

Simon: Thank you. But I gather you’re getting into my line of work here. I’m a little bit threatened. (Laughter)

Gulbransen: Senator Blackburn wrote an op-ed, which is a great op-ed about a proposal being made by Google. And of course, you’ve had your run-ins with big tech that are well documented.

And the proposal, as I understand it, that Google has made as a pilot program in the form of advisory opinion with the Federal Election Commission, would eliminate all spam-filter algorithms for participating candidates and organizations. Can you talk to us about that a little bit?

Blackburn: Yeah, exactly. And Aaron, I’ve got to walk it back a little bit, and where we got going on this. And Roger knows that I’ve put a lot of time into big tech – how we are going to get them to abide by rules and regulations, and respect privacy reforms for Section 230.

So all of that has been a part of the work that I’ve done. Well, in the course of that, we started to hear from political campaigns in churches and conservative organizations, pro-life organizations, and they would say, you know, people are telling us that our emails always go to spam, even if they signed up for our email list, so what’s the deal with this?

And they couldn’t get straight answers. Well, individuals would tell us if they sign up for an email listserv, that is there for a Democratic candidate or a left-leaning group, all of those emails go to their inbox.

So we began to question Google about this. And you can imagine what they immediately said: Oh, it’s not us. It is the algorithms. It is all the fault of artificial intelligence and algorithms.

Well, we reminded them that engineers are the ones who set the algorithms. AI is set by these algorithms. And if you’re going to bias, and seat that bias, into the algorithm, of course, it’s going to push you further Left.

Simon: Yes. We used to call that garbage in, garbage out in the beginning of the internet.

Gulbransen: There you go. Of course, as you’re correctly pointing out, who pays the engineers? Well, it’s big tech, right?

Simon: Not only who pays them – what do they really think?

Blackburn: Right. Then, they didn’t want to talk about the content moderators. And of course, these content moderators for the social media platforms and for Google, all of them sit on the West Coast. They are bringing their bias to work for them, or with them.

And we pointed out that these content moderators are subjective. Even if you have these algorithms that they say, oh, they’re objective, they’re not subjective, which, of course, is inaccurate.

And I think it dawned on Google that things are going to change. And the next chair of the Consumer Protection Data Security Committee is probably going to be a Republican who has worked on this issue for years because now she’s the top Republican on that committee.

So they said, okay, okay, what we’re going to do is go work with the Federal Election Commission, and we are going to put together a panel of advisors, and we’re going to issue advisory opinions as to how this should be approached.

And basically what I said was, oh, no. Because what you’re trying to do is slow-walk making changes, and get yourself through the election cycle in November, and then you can go back to doing whatever it is that you want to do.

And we’re just not going to stand for that. So we continue. I mean, this is such a phony fix, and they’re trying to get around saying they’re wrong, and they’re trying not to admit that what they’ve been doing …

Simon: Marsha, may I ask you a more macro question about this? Because I know you’ve been dealing with the big-tech issue for some time. The old antitrust legislation that was written, I don’t know how many years ago, the people who wrote it could have no idea of companies like this, like Alphabet and even Apple or Twitter.

They’re all multinational, way above the state. Maybe more powerful than the state. Are people considering how to rewrite that kind of legislation and really go after it?

Blackburn: Oh yes. Yes. As a matter of fact, one of the bills that is moving forward is a piece of legislation that I have with Senator Blumenthal, so it’s bipartisan.

It’s called the Open App Market Act, which would allow innovators of apps to immediately work with the people that are downloading the app and not have to go through the Apple or Google App Store, because they have a corner on that market, and you can’t put that app on their device unless you go through them.

And they call this side loading, and we’re just saying, no. Anybody that has an app – let’s say you use St. Thomas Hospital, and let’s say St. Thomas Hospital had an app.

And let’s say you wanted to put that on your device because that’s where you go for all of your healthcare needs. Or that there is a store that you regularly do business with, and you wanted to put their app on your phone so that you could go in and, let’s say it’s McDonald’s. You wanted to be able to order from McDonald’s or from Starbucks, but you didn’t want to have to go to the App Store to put that on there because every time you go into that App Store and you download an app, not only are you paying, but what are they doing? They’re collecting your data, and then they’re monitoring the number of times you use that app.

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(CNN)President Joe Biden vowed Friday to take "strong executive action" in response to moderate Democratic Sen. Joe Manchin torpedoing his party's efforts toward writing sweeping climate action and tax legislation.

"If the Senate will not move to tackle the climate crisis and strengthen our domestic clean energy industry, I will take strong executive action to meet this moment," Biden said in statement, while overseas in Jeddah, Saudi Arabia. Biden didn't mention Manchin specifically. The President vowed to "create jobs, improve our energy security, bolster domestic manufacturing and supply chains, protect us from oil and gas price hikes in the future, and address climate change," but did not provide specifics on what kind of action he would take.
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"I want to thank Leader Schumer for his dogged and determined effort to produce the strongest possible bill to bring down costs, reduce the deficit, and combat the climate crisis while boosting our energy security -- even offering significant compromises to try to reach an agreement," Biden wrote.It's unclear if Manchin's public position asking that negotiators wait until September to consider raising taxes or climate provisions means that prescription drug pricing changes and ACA subsidies would be separate. Democrats have pushed to finish a deal before August recess in order to give their vulnerable members of for reelection a chance to campaign on the legislation. John Podesta, Center for American Progress founder and Obama climate adviser, expressed skepticism about Manchin's push for more time to consider the deal."I think that string has run out," Podesta said in an interview. "He killed this, and he has to own that. If he's happy about the consequences of that, so be it, but it's going to be devastating to a lot of people across the country." Manchin, who has cited increased federal spending as a main driver of inflation, would not budge on other Democratic priorities, and he told Schumer that he will not consider raising taxes on the wealthy or corporations.The change in tone of the latest negotiations was abrupt. Manchin had supported those provisions throughout the negotiations with the majority leader, both at the staff and member level, one of the sources familiar said. News of Manchin's stance of not supporting climate and tax provisions to Democratic leadership, first reported by The Washington Post, was met with outrage from climate activists and many fellow Democrats, who have previously seethed over Manchin's refusal to back some of the party's more ambitious spending proposals. 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Data released Wednesday showed that inflation surged to a new pandemic-era peak in June, with US consumer prices jumping by 9.1% year-over-year -- the highest level in more than 40 years.From December: How months of talks between Biden and Manchin over Build Back Better broke down But Evergreen Action co-founder Jamal Raad told CNN that Manchin's argument about not spending more to avoid worsening inflation missed the mark when it came to energy and climate."He's not even about solving inflation because the major driver of inflation was gas prices, and he decided we should invest more in fossil fuels," Raad said.Democrats are now pushing to get the Affordable Care Act subsidies extended before the August recess to avoid major rate hikes that will be announced just before the midterm elections in November.The subsidies were expanded as part of the Democrats' American Rescue Plan Act and made coverage on the Obamacare exchanges more affordable, leading to record enrollment this year. 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